Cein
Cein wild as harpies

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27 years old
slc, Utah
United States



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GeneralSentences on Conceptual Art by Sol Lewitt Conceptual artists are mystics rather than rationalists. They leap to conclusions that logic cannot reach. Rational judgements repeat rational judgements. Irrational judgements lead to new experience. Formal art is essentially rational. Irrational thoughts should be followed absolutely and logically. If the artist changes his mind midway through the execution of the piece he compromises the result and repeats past results. The artist's will is secondary to the process he initiates from idea to completion. His wilfulness may only be ego. When words such as painting and sculpture are used, they connote a whole tradition and imply a consequent acceptance of this tradition, thus placing limitations on the artist who would be reluctant to make art that goes beyond the limitations. The concept and idea are different. The former implies a general direction while the latter is the component. Ideas implement the concept. Ideas can be works of art; they are in a chain of development that may eventually find some form. All ideas need not be made physical. Ideas do not necessarily proceed in logical order. They may set one off in unexpected directions, but an idea must necessarily be completed in the mind before the next one is formed. For each work of art that becomes physical there are many variations that do not. A work of art may be understood as a conductor from the artist's mind to the viewer's. But it may never reach the viewer, or it may never leave the artist's mind. The words of one artist to another may induce an idea chain, if they share the same concept. Since no form is intrinsically superior to another, the artist may use any form, from an expression of words (written or spoken) to physical reality, equally. If words are used, and they proceed from ideas about art, then they are art and not literature; numbers are not mathematics. All ideas are art if they are concerned with art and fall within the conventions of art. One usually understands the art of the past by applying the convention of the present, thus misunderstanding the art of the past. The conventions of art are altered by works of art. Successful art changes our understanding of the conventions by altering our perceptions. Perception of ideas leads to new ideas. The artist cannot imagine his art, and cannot perceive it until it is complete. The artist may misperceive (understand it differently from the artist) a work of art but still be set off in his own chain of thought by that misconstrual. Perception is subjective. The artist may not necessarily understand his own art. His perception is neither better nor worse than that of others. An artist may perceive the art of others better than his own. The concept of a work of art may involve the matter of the piece or the process in which it is made. Once the idea of the piece is established in the artist's mind and the final form is decided, the process is carried out blindly. There are many side effects that the artist cannot imagine. These may be used as ideas for new works. The process is mechanical and should not be tampered with. It should run its course. There are many elements involved in a work of art. The most important are the most obvious. If an artist uses the same form in a group of works, and changes the material, one would assume the artist's concept involved the material. Banal ideas cannot be rescued by beautiful execution. It is difficult to bungle a good idea. When an artist learns his craft too well he makes slick art. These sentences comment on art, but are not art.
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Zodiac Sign:Aquarius
Occupation:bridge burner

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smultron

smultron



Jul 6 2009 6:43 AM

saw a lady with a UTAH bag on the train today and thought of u(tah).xo
the seacreatures

the seacreatures



Jun 11 2009 11:00 PM

3am drunk call
finalsketches

Blake Palmer



Jun 11 2009 6:38 PM

blake and cat's art show
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Jenn Marie

Jennifer Marie Maynard



May 23 2009 4:00 PM

it's not going to be the same tomorrow without you.
hope you are enjoying yourself mr!!
lady and the leg

Hannah Harris



May 3 2009 5:07 AM

Did you get that picture of the birds in my house??? Well I'm writing to tell you I owe ya one so pick your poison...(cheesy seri- or bad etching)
-H
kalani

kalani



Mar 26 2009 9:05 PM

i did a crazyfreakoutleave the other nite for the first time in a long time. these silly pdxers aren't used to it and it almost got ugly.
missyou
Mari-T

Mari-T



Feb 24 2009 6:45 AM

Ha 7:44 am in Berlin. Good Morning Mister...(-:
Tarek

Tarek



Feb 19 2009 8:42 PM

....Cein in Kiel? Da ist die Aufregung allseits groß!
beth

beth



Feb 18 2009 9:17 PM

wink ;)
shea

shea watson



Feb 17 2009 8:15 PM

YEAH double me!
Shell

Shell



Jan 25 2009 9:25 PM

hey dude! so good to see you on my birthday! what an amazing surprise! yay! hope you had a bromance-ful weekend here in portland! in other news, joel and i are planning a big road trip for august, although a long way off... we were wondering if we pass through slc if we could crash on your couch/ floor for a night or two? anyways! hope to see you soon... fucking rad art too man! keep it up! lots of hugs and loves!
Baba Yaga Kostianaya Noga

tyrus runyan



Jan 14 2009 9:25 PM

Like key in the door?
Shit Howdy, Rachael Victoria!!

Shit Howdy, Rachael Victoria!!



Dec 23 2008 3:59 PM

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shea

shea watson



Dec 22 2008 6:48 AM

I hate fuck math
SKELLUM

SKELLUM



Dec 4 2008 6:04 AM

SNDSYSTM VOL1
finalsketches

Blake Palmer



Dec 3 2008 3:15 AM

hay everyone i will be showing my work in the small works show at kayo
so come by and get your self something for christmas

see you there
blake

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Carlotta Valdez

Carlotta Valdez



Nov 28 2008 4:54 PM

CEEIN!! hey kid. whats going on. portland is missing you with fierce fury. ya.
youuu should come hang out and itll be fun. maybe. ok happy black friday. hope art is good.
Stacy

Stacy



Nov 27 2008 6:51 PM

Indeed.
Not at all happy about it haha
The Oyster Pirates

Ti Kunkit



Nov 27 2008 3:07 AM

John

John



Nov 23 2008 7:17 PM

Hi Cein,

Its John, you remember me? The guy with no snwoball etiquette that used to live in scotland...

How are you getting on? Still watching Peep Show? Hope that the art work is going well. Are you still based in Utah?

give me a shout when you are taking a break from 'hot manxing'

John
Stacy

Stacy



Nov 22 2008 9:02 PM

You, me, tea? I want to hear about the bike ride!
shea

shea watson



Nov 18 2008 8:10 PM

nickles and bananas!
finalsketches

Blake Palmer



Nov 18 2008 5:26 PM

Recently, Mike Aitken was in a severe BMX accident. He has severe head trauma. The medical bills will be enormous. Mike is a professional rider and in his line of work he is not eligible for health insurance. They claim he is "too high risk." Mike has contacted numerous insurance offices and has been denied by all.

help out Mike and get some art
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beth

beth



Nov 17 2008 4:04 PM

hi cein...i think i'm going to need a hug later today! i will come find you ;)
Mari-T

Mari-T



Nov 16 2008 9:37 AM

we try. both of us...
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