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Member Since1/18/2007
Band Websitehttp://www.12rec.net/Release_David-Schweighart_046
Band Membersdistractions, bedpans, stopsigns and other traffic controls like a policeman, empty cans of chinese tea bought in italy, cigarrettes, cooking devices (like bedpans?), frozen ponds or lakes, singing birds, crickets and grasshoppers, children screaming "i love you!", all kinds of luggage, trees, flowers, bees, hippies, NEDs (scottish ones only), subways, staircases, heavy doors, squeaking doors, rusty doors, elevators, airplanes (only tupolevs I'm afraid, I'm very afraid), little one(wo)man sports sailing boats, empty halls, crowded malls, london, budapest, vienna, murska sobota (no, thats a lie i'm sorry), musca domestica, plastic tubes, metal tubes and everything else that can be made out of metal, instruments, singing people, whistling people, screaming people like me (but just from the backside), who's lost in detail now?
Influences"Während an der neuen Musik dem von der Produktion abgeschnittenen Publikum die Oberfläche befremdend klingt, gingen doch ihre exponiertesten Phänomene aus eben den gesellschaftlichen und anthropologischen Voraussetzungen hervor, welche die eigenen der Hörer sind. Die Dissonanzen, die sie schrecken, reden von ihrem eigenen Zustand: einzig darum sind sie ihnen unerträglich. Umgekehrt ist der Gehalt des allzu Vertrauten so weit dem entrückt, was heute über die Menschen verhängt wird, dass ihre eigene Erfahrung kaum mehr mit der kommuniziert, für welche die traditionelle Musik zeugt. Wo sie zu verstehen glauben nehmen sie bloss noch den toten Abguss dessen wahr, was sie als fraglosen Besitz hüten und was schon verloren ist in dem Augenblick, in dem es zum Besitz wird: neutralisiert, der eigenen kritischen Substanz beraubt, gleichgültiges Schaustück. In der Tat fällt denn auch in die Auffassung des Publikums von traditioneller Musik nur das Allergröbste, Einfälle, die sich behalten lassen; ominös schöne Stellen Stimmungen und Assoziationen. Der musikalische Zusammenhang der den Sinn stiftet, bleibt in jeder frühen Beethovensonate dem durchs Radio dressierten Hörer nicht weniger verborgen, als in einem Schönbergquartett, das ihn wenigstens daran mahnt, dass sein Himmel nicht voll der geigen hängt, an deren süssem Ton er sich weidet."___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Theodor W. Adorno: Philosophie der neuen Musik
Sounds Like"...And a terrible thing is music in general. What is it? Why does it do what it does? They say that music stirs the soul. Stupidity! A lie! It acts, it acts frightfully (I speak for myself), but not in an ennobling way. It acts neither in an ennobling nor a debasing way, but in an irritating way. How shall I say it? Music forces me to forget myself, my real situation. It transports me into a state which is not my own. Under the influence of music I really seem to feel what I do not feel, to understand what I do not understand, to have powers which I cannot have. Music seems to me to act like yawning or laughter; I have no desire to sleep, but I yawn when I see others yawn; with no reason to laugh, I laugh when I hear others laugh. And music transports me immediately into the condition of soul in which he who wrote the music found himself at that time. I become confounded with his soul, and with him I pass from one condition to another. But why that? I know nothing about it. But he who wrote the 'Kreutzer Sonata'-Beethoven- knew well why he found himself in a certain condition. That condition led him to certain actions, and for that reason to him had a meaning, but to me none, none whatever. And that is why music provokes an excitement which it does not bring to a conclusion. For instance, a military march is played; the soldier passes to the sound of this march, and the music is finished. A dance is played; I have finished dancing, and the music is finished. A mass is sung; I receive the sacrament, and again the music is finished. But any other music provokes an excitement, and this excitement is not accompanied by the thing that needs properly to be done, and that is why music is so dangerous, and sometimes acts so frightfully. In China music is under the control of the State, and that is the way it ought to be. Is it admissible that the first comer should hypnotize one or more persons, and then do with them as he likes? And especially that the hypnotizer should be the first immoral individual who happens to come along?..." --------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leo Tolstoy "Kreutzer Sonata"---------------------------------------------------------------------- There are sins or (let us call them as the world calls them) evil memories which are hidden away by man in the darkest places of the heart but they abide there and wait. He may suffer their memory to grow dim, let them be as though they had not been and all but persuade himself that they were not or at least were otherwise. Yet a chance word will call them forth suddenly and they will rise up to confront him in the most various circumstances, a vision or a dream, or while timbrel and harp soothe his senses or amid the cool silver tranquility of the evening or at the feast, at midnight, when he is now filled with wine. Not to insult over him will the vision come as over one that lies under her wrath, not for vengeance to cut him off from the living but shrouded in the piteous vesture of the past, silent, remote, reproachful. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- james joyce "ulysses"
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you have to listen! you see alot , you might also watch it, you hear a lot, but you have to listen! do you ever do that? if you play a song to friends and turn the volume down after 20 seconds or skip to another song, then you haven't been listening. there's so many things worth listening in your daily life, you might not even call it music. maybe you don't have to listen. who am i to tell you. i love listening. i also love playing. with all kinds of things, mostly musical instruments (mostly guitar or drums), mostly in bands, like TUPOLEV (very complicated emotions, that need a lot of time to think about) SLON (feels very deeply and sometimes complicates it, angry mostly) Werner Kitzmüller TRIO (feels very deeply too, but the introverted way) PROTESTANT WORK ETHIC (is very diplomatic, when talking about feelings, painting pretty pictures) PRIMORDIAL UNDERMIND (is mostly confusing things on purpose, kicking your ass with heavy boots) sometimes i also play solonely.... soon that will also happen in front of an audience. i don't know what to think about that, it won't sound like the record i did, which is named "thank you for listening to this record, which made my hours pass so quickly" (12rec.net) i also played in bands, that don't exist any longer, like ROSCOE FLETCHER, LINAKKER, MISHA MARKS 4 (they might stille exist, members just live on different continents), or KES and with people like LARS STIGLER (who makes beautiful music) or MICHAEL FISCHER and various others... MySpace Layouts

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Paper Bird

Paper       Bird



Nov 12 2009 11:17 PM









pre-order Thaumatrope special package & merch now on www.paperbirdmusic.com

release show november 19th, konzerthaus wien
werner kitzmüller

werner kitzmüller



Nov 8 2009 12:22 PM

ooh very nice schatzi... very nice... as usual... ;) 
malus

malus mono



Oct 10 2009 8:37 AM

werb.ung:




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Der Elegante Rest

Der Elegante Rest



Sep 5 2009 10:21 AM

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misa

misa



Aug 30 2009 3:52 PM

sag pitschki sie gefällt mir
Doctor Shirota

Doctor Shirota



Aug 21 2009 1:36 PM

du bist im fernsehen!
Freight_Train

Freight_Train



Aug 17 2009 11:49 AM

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Lukas Scholler

Lukas Scholler



Jun 20 2009 5:08 PM

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morphia

morphia M.E.M.



Jun 8 2009 9:52 PM

schönen guten abend der herr! ich hab heute wunderbare fotos aus alten zeiten ausgegraben. dieser umstand animiert mich, den auf den fotos abegbildeten menschen, kurze mitteilungen der ein oder anderen art zu hinterlassen...
in dem sinne liebste grüße aus der vergangenheit! :)
Last & Galle

Last & Galle



May 24 2009 8:38 PM

Guten Tag ..es ist immer wieder aufs neue prodigiös diese Seite zu besuchen..!Wir gestatteten uns ulängst ein paar jüngere Arbeiten aus den Grotten unserer Archive heraufzuladen..vielleicht findet sich ja etwas Zeit uns einmal mehr zu besuchen?!Wir emphelen uns in scheuem Abschied
Doctor Shirota

Doctor Shirota



May 24 2009 9:55 AM

Okay! :)
misa

misa



Apr 2 2009 11:11 AM

___________________________________________________________________________________________________ unendlich mögliches hat die wahl einer einzigen wirklichkeit getroffen
malus

malus mono



Mar 28 2009 3:48 PM

LightDrawings

Das Malus photographiert Zitatinterpretationen - und stellt ein paar davon aus.
Zitiert werden....

Arnold Schoenberg,
Natalie Barney ueber Djuna Barnes,
AusRotten, Flipper,
Leopold Kohr,
Ken Chinn (SNFU), Page Hamilton (Helmet).

am Montag 30.04.2009 // 19:30

im Elektro/Gönner,
Mariahilfer Str. 101/im Hof - links

dazu spielt das
Werner Kitzmueller - Trio
ein kurzes Akkustikset (~21:30).

und Dj TNR legt auf.
.....wuerde mich freuen! m.
malus

malus mono



Mar 27 2009 11:37 PM

goenner



misa

misa



Mar 17 2009 11:42 AM

ich träger mönch! wann mach ich denn einmal
aus dem lebendigen schauspiel meiner qual
der augen liebe und der hände werke?
alexandr vatagin

alexandr vatagin



Mar 15 2009 2:41 AM

schlafen kann man schließlich wenn man tot ist...
ssuserl

ssuserl



Feb 24 2009 12:10 PM

hey, falls du heut abend noch nichts besseres vorhast: desperate to amuse (diesmal mit drums) sind heute im B72, ab 20 uhr (www. nolabel. at)
glG, susanne
the Inevitable

the Inevitable



Feb 4 2009 12:49 PM


Ich ess dann Eben Holz.
ssuserl

ssuserl



Jan 21 2009 6:44 PM

dank fürn ed, complimenti noch mal wegen dem spiel der gitarre ... sehr schön ... glG aus Graz, susanne n.s.
wie gehts der nase?
malus

malus mono



Jan 15 2009 8:55 PM

Wenn man bedenkt, daß es Idioten gibt, die Trost aus den schoenen Kuensten schoepfen.
Wie meine Tante Bigeois: "Die Preludes von Chopin waren mir eine solche Hilfe beim Tod deines armen Onkels."
Und die Konzertsaele quellen ueber von Gedemuetigten, Beleidigten, die mit geschlossenen Augen versuchen, ihre bleichen Gesichter in Empfangsantennen zu verwandeln. Sie bilden sich ein, daß die aufgefangenen Toene in sie einfließen, sanft und nahrhaft, und das ihre Leiden Musik werden, wie die Leiden des jungen Werthers; sie glauben, daß die Schoenheit mit ihnen fuehlt.
Die Arschloecher.
.....jps
....
............
misa

misa



Jan 12 2009 8:43 PM

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*please*stay*at*home*

*please*stay*at*home*



Jan 11 2009 10:04 PM

hallo!
am montag, 12.1. legen wir wieder mal im rhiz auf.
*please*stay*at*home*

wir freuen uns!
*k&j*
d a s e i n

d a s e i n



Dec 29 2008 11:57 PM

grande superbadilone!
nice you got it and especially you are already loving it: it has been an essential book for my "bildung"...
yes, we will kick asses... have you seen how many dates in the east i provided? ;)
dio stronzo!

p.s.
happy new year!
werner kitzmüller

werner kitzmüller



Dec 21 2008 8:01 PM

ich liebe dortmund skizze. sehr schön..
Paper Bird

Paper       Bird



Dec 16 2008 11:08 AM

being the picture.
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