myspace music

If
Jazz / Progressive / Jam Band




United Kingdom

Profile Views:  11480




Last Login:  11/15/2007
View My: Pics | Videos | Playlists

   Contacting If

 MySpace URL: 

   If: General Info
Member Since8/31/2007
Band MembersDick Morrissey (saxophones, flute)
Terry Smith (guitars)
John Mealing (keyboards)
J. W. Hodkinson (lead vocals)
Dennis Elliott (drums)
Davy Quincy (saxophones)
Jim Richardson (bass)
Fi Trench (keyboards)
Pete Arnesen (keyboards)
Steve Rosenthal (guitar/lead vocals)
Kurt Palomacki (bass)
Cliff Davies (drums)
Geoff Whitehorn (guitar, vocals)
Gabrial Magno (keyboards, clarinet)
Walt Manoghan (bass, vocals)
InfluencesIf ever a band epitomized the spirit of Jazz-Rock - it was If. Born of the early Seventies, this highly popular and innovative British band created an exciting new blend of musical influences. The founder members were all top rated jazz musicians, but with youth on their side, they were readily accepted in the world of pop and rock. Most jazz music relied heavily on open ended jamming on familiar, well worn standard tunes. By the late Sixties this just wasn't good enough as progressive rook bands were proving much more adventurous than their jazz counterparts. The birth of jazz-rock was sparked by the success of American pioneers Blood, Sweat & Tears and Chicago who brought a new clarity and blues power back to big band jazz.  In 1969 If was born and the new band began to develop their own sound and approach. They used tightly written sax and guitar arrangements, deployed to back a powerful young lead singer. This new concept provided the way ahead for many musicians who might have languished on the under-funded, under-publicised jazz club circuit. If recorded a succession of albums, toured extensively throughout Europe and America and played to large, appreciative audiences. They also enjoyed all the fringe benefits of the rock life style. When several members of If held a reunion meeting in March 1997, they laughed long and loud at their shared memories of the good old days.

The band’s structure was quite different from BS&T or Chicago. Says John Mealing: "One of the original things about our band was that we didn't have a trumpet. The front line was all saxes and guitar and most of the other jazz-rock bands had trumpets." Jim Richardson remembers the band's first rehearsals at a pub in Islington called The Pied Bull, which was run by a gentleman fondly known as 'Mad Phil' who was originally a ballroom dancer and still had the 1930s movie star hair style to prove it. "He was a great character. I remember him saying that If was going to be BIG!"

They released their first album simply called If with its distinctive metallic cover design in 1970. The band’s name was chosen by their manager and was noted more for its fashionable brevity than anything to do with the Rudyard Kipling poem. Says Quincy: "I remember one tour with Yes and If. Someone said it sounded like Egg and Chips! But it was a memorable name and the album cover won a design award." If 2 was released [later] in 1970, followed by If 3 (1971), and If 4 (Waterfall) (1972).

Quincy feels the Europe ’72 album serves as both a timely reminder of a great band and also fills the gap left by the studio albums. "Our performance on those albums was never quite right. We'd record a new song but they'd only start to develop once we’d played them on gigs." Jim agrees: "This captures the essence of the 'live' band. There's one track on here that Dick wrote called "What Did I Say About The Box Jack?" that we used to play at every gig. On this CD it goes on for about twenty minutes. We used to tag things on and it became longer and longer!" The strange title comes from an episode when the band were recording the song for their first studio album. Lew Futterman's friend Jack McDuff was in the control booth and they were having a heated discussion. Lew's voice suddenly came over the PA saying: "What did I say about the box, Jack?" Well, you work it out. Some of the songs like "Waterfall" were first heard on the album If 4 but these are all different 'takes.' The band's main soloists are featured in turn. Dick plays an extended flute solo on "Waterfall" and John Mealing plays piano on "The Light Still Shines" followed by Morrissey on soprano sax; Terry Smith gets stuck into an angular guitar solo on "Sector 17" and Dick plays tenor on "Throw Myself To The Wind" and more flute on "I Couldn't Write And Tell You".  John Mealing switches to organ for "Your City Is Falling" which also provides a drum feature for Dennis Elliott. Everyone gets to shine on "What Did I Say About The Box Jack?" which also has a powerful blues vocal from John Hodkinson. The demise of the original If was hastened when Dick Morrissey became ill in the Summer of 1972 and the band came off the road.

Dennis Elliott went on to join Foreigner which became hugely successful, while Mealing and Richardson left to pursue separate careers. John Hodkinson sang with Darryl Way's Wolf (Night Music LP, 1974). He later returned to his home in Manchester where he still sings locally. Jim played in the house band at London's Talk Of The Town venue for a few years, and also toured with Georgie Fame. Dave Quincy formed new group Zzebra with Terry Smith which included Loughty Amao (flute and tenor sax), Gus Yeadon (piano and vocals), Liam Genockey (drums) and John McCoy (bass). They released the Zzebra album in 1974, then Terry left to go to Sweden with Dick where they lived with their families for a while. Dick later revived If for the final albums Double Diamond (1973), Not Just Another Bunch Of Pretty Faces (1974), and Tea Break Is Over, Back On Your Heads (1975). The following year Dick began working with guitarist Jim Mullen in Morrissey/Mullen. Dick also did some work with Herbie Mann and the Average White Band in New York.

CHRIS WELCH, London, 1997
(Taken from the Repertoire CD release, "Europe '72" REP 4653-WY)

Record LabelUnsigned


Get Flash now!

In order to listen or view this content you will have to upgrade your version of Flash.


If's Latest Blog Entry  [Subscribe to this Blog]

[View All Blog Entries]

   About If
Forgotten Roads

Add to My Profile | More Videos

   If's Friend Space (Top 38)
If has 135 friends.
 Zzebra 


 Colosseum 


 Greatest Show On Earth 


 Galliard 


 Brainchild 


 Delivery 


 Goliath (UK) 


 Hannibal 


 Web 


 Pete Brown and Piblokto! 


 Affinity 


 Aquila 


 Mr. Albert Show 


 Pinguin 


 Thors Hammer 


 Brainstorm 


 Chicago Album Fan Page 


 Gas Mask 


 Ballin Jack 


 Myrth 


 Nine Days Wonder 


 Ardo Dombec 


 Release Music Orchestra 


 Emergency 


 Altona 


 Catapilla 


 Samurai 


 Tonton Macoute 


 Ashton, Gardner & Dyke 


 Diabolus 


 Baker Gurvitz Army 


 Fusion Orchestra 


 Titus Groan 


 Mogul Thrash 


 Olympic Runners 


 Ten Wheel Drive 


 Room 


 The Norman Haines Band 





If's Friends Comments
Displaying 12 of 12 comments  ( View All | Add Comment )
Wolla

Wolfgang Bosch



Dec 18 2009 1:52 AM


Check out my page
http://www.wholikesu.net/photos/7228325.html?b=4&w=46




Let me know if you like me YES or NO
http://www.wholikesu.net/photos/7228325.html?b=4&w=46

Wolla

Wolfgang Bosch



Nov 28 2009 2:04 PM





Horn Rock Heaven

Horn Rock Heaven



Jun 17 2008 7:25 PM

We love ya!
mouth

mouth



Nov 30 2007 4:58 PM

Hello & thanx for the add!!!

WE LOVE FORGOTTEN ROADS!!!

Cheers

the
KRautZZ
TriPod

TriPod



Nov 26 2007 11:47 PM

Cheers from NYC!
HELIA

HELIA



Nov 8 2007 1:10 AM

Good Evening If,
It's nice to virtually meet you.
Thank you for the cyber friendship, the add and the Wonderful Music.
Have an Awesome Thursday!!
With Respect and Admiration from Toronto, Canada.
Steve

Steve Smith



Nov 7 2007 10:01 PM






Thanks for the add guys!
BLAZE (OSAKA / JAPAN)

BLAZE (OSAKA / JAPAN)



Nov 7 2007 10:55 AM

Thanks for your add. Greetings from Japan.
AMON RA

AMON RA



Nov 7 2007 9:00 AM

thanks for the add!
Dale Whitaker

Dale Whitaker



Oct 10 2007 8:02 PM

Thanx for the add!!!

Dale
alan

alan hare



Oct 10 2007 7:00 PM

thanks for add
turok

Mario giovannini
Online Now!


Oct 10 2007 1:34 PM

Grazie x l'amicizia ne sono onorato un saluto dall'italia un bel ciaoooooooooo
Add Comment


©2003-2009 MySpace.com. All Rights Reserved.