paul vincent, andy harris, scott aicher, alan velasco, robert ibarra, bob archer, rick pugliese, victor gastelum, haydee del valle, jed schipper, tony cook, christian moreno, nicole davis, mike brinson, s.a. griffin, mike watt, todd williams, elvis segarich, hank & linda bukowski, nada & laila rayyes, white mike, aaron white, brian walsby, iris berry, traci madrid, lina litonjua, jack doyle, cheryl groff, taso papadakis, john hagler, victor sedillo, raul morales, kevin carle, sean cole, raven & denis fleps, jacob gaxiola, mitch carroll, victor zuniga, bradley williams, tony malone, mark kordich, bryan raymond turcotte, danny partida, scott devries, phaedra shay, rachel vincent at printmasters, ian vanek, jen stroup, trish kelly, naomi petersen, joel morales, alison mullin, chris yang, denny mack, kelly opdycke, joe carducci, fey kanz, vince giobbe, john ransom, mike trejo, shepard fairey.
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THE RISE AND THE FALL
P.O. Box 1794
San Pedro, CA 90733
Available at these fine stores while supplies last:
SAN PEDRO
URBAN FEET SKATE 360 W. 6th St.
WILLIAMS’ BOOKSTORE 443 W. 6th St.
SO. CAL TATTOO 490 W. 6th St.
SAN PEDRO SURF & SPORT 2234-36 S. Pacific Ave.
SAN PEDRO TATTOO 742 S. Pacific Ave.
SACRED GROUNDS COFFEE SHOP 360 W. 6th St.
SHIP SHAPE 403 W. 6th St.
GUITAR SAFARI 424 W. 6th St.
SYLVIA’S BAIL BONDS 981 N. Pacific Ave.
RENZWEAR 490 W. 6th St.
SPORTING COLLARS 418 W. 6th St.
SUNKEN CITY SKATES 619 S. Mesa St.
ALVAS MUSIC 1417 W. 8th St.
NOSH CAFÉ DELI 617 S. Centre St.
PORTFOLIO 2300 E. 4th St.
STARLITE ROOM 2220 E. 4th St.
MEOW 2210 E. 4th St.
SUGAR LEE 2146 E. 4th St.
IMONNI VINTAGE CLOTHING 2106 E. 4th St.
REPEAT BOO-TEEK 2136 E. 4th St.
E. 4TH SKATEBOARD SHOP 2120 E. 4th St.
FINGERPRINTS RECORDS 4612 E. 2nd St.
BLACK MARKET 429 E. First St.
SEAMS 427 E. First St.
SNEAKY TIKI BOUTIQUE 2234A E. 4th St.
ZEPHYR CAFE 340 E. 4th St.
THE PIKE RESTAURANT & BAR 1836 E. 4th St.
ORANGE COUNTY
RADIATION RECORDS 1501 N. Raymond Ave.
THE DOLL HUT 107 S. Adams St.
EAST LOS ANGELES
ONE STOP CULTURE 5273 ½ E. Beverly Blvd.
ECHO PARK
BLANK GALLERY 1202 N. Alvarado St. Unit E-2
SEA LEVEL RECORDS 1716 W. Sunset Blvd.
SILVERLAKE
ROCKAWAY RECORDS 2395 Glendale Blvd.
GIANT ROBOT 4017 Sunset Blvd.
HOLLYWOOD
AMOEBA MUSIC 6400 W. Sunset Blvd.
HEAD LINE RECORDS 7706 Melrose Ave.
WACKO / SOAP PLANT 4633 Hollywood Blvd.
X-LARGE 1768 N. Vermont
Y-QUE TRADING POST 1770 N. Vermont
Influences
THE TOILET TIMES
was me & aaron white's first attempt at a fanzine in 1985-1986. we were both at the tail end of high school. i think aaron came up with the name "toilet times." aaron also did this cover art (above) and as you could see we had no idea about proportion. all our layouts were on different size pieces of paper. notice the shawn kerri rip-off in the top left corner (girl holding flag) copied from an old t.s.o.l. / d.o.a. flyer from 1982. we had no clue what we were doing and neither of us had jobs. i don't know how we planned on paying for the printing. i think in the back of our minds we were hoping to get it printed for free 'cause we went to school with a kid who's parents owned mjm printing & graphics (9th street) and he would get his parents to print house party flyers for us for free during our high school daze. at some point before we were even finished with the issue, we walked into the print shop (mjm) to get a quote - they told us about $500 bucks - we walked out scratching our heads. i think we tried to finish the issue but i think we both knew it would never get printed. we had a gig photo section and we borrowed mike naylor's gig photos that he had taken from various gigs and we cut 'em all up and made collages. he wasn't too happy about it. we were really into the descendents and they had just gotten back together (i don't wanna grow up). we had a flyer from an anti club show and noticed they were playing with a band named raszebrae (debbie patino, ingrid baumgart, katie childe, janet housden) who were featured in the new flipside and it had their phone number listed. we called them and scheduled an interview and they got us on the guest list. i brang my huge ghetto blaster and aaron came up with some quick (artsy) questions and we interviewed them on the steps of the anti club before the gig. we were broke and could barely scrounge enough money for gas to get there so we were super stoked our plan worked out. long story short - we interviewed raszebrae before the gig and then snuck the ghetto blaster in and bootlegged the descendents by taping over the raszebrae interview. i know, but we were kids. yeah, we probably should have brang two cassettes but what the fuck. funny shit. we were learning and we had a lot of fun working on the zine.
chet zar did this art for us (above) for the zine. chet was into drawing creepy shit all the time. he was in my art class at san pedro high school. me and aaron were super stoked when he gave us this piece. chet went on to become a very successful artist. check out:
chetzar.com
aaron did this dead kennedys comic (above) for the zine. pat meagher is the one seeing stars and he is on top of aaron's head in the crowd. aaron always put his friends in his drawings. letraset rub down backgrounds purchased at harbor office supply.
aaron draws more of our friends in this crowd drawing (above). silhouettes of pat speers (second from left), erick freels (pumping fist), marc olmos (finger drumming) and jessica lee smoking. ha.
here is a minutemen layout for their gig at angels gate cultural center on november 16, 1985. notice the letraset rub down backgrounds and the halftoned pictures. we had to actually get my brother's (rob ibarra) minutemen pix photographed with stat cameras just to turn them into half-toned stats for printing, it was super expensive. so were the letraset backgrounds and rub down type. it was super hard to do a fanzine back then without computers but we learned a lot about cut and paste.
- Craig Ibarra
ZINE INFLUENCES:
creem, circus, skateboarder, skateboard world, action now, thrasher, transworld, poweredge, flipside, toilet times, raymond pettibon through sst publications, maximumrocknroll, no mag, slash, damage, slush, destroy l.a., high times, forced exposure, generation, the big takeover, we got power, touch and go, motorbooty, s.f.t.g., chemical imbalance, ink disease, your flesh, option, raygun, punk planet, censor this, hit it or quit it!, blatch, flesh and bones, catazine, ripper, fer youz, suburban voice, black market, uncle fester, sick teen, ben is dead, punchline, great god pan, fizz, skate fate, the prole, vice, juxstapoz, razorcake, tokion, swindle, giant robot, chinmusic, skyscraper, concussion, guttervomit, blah!, 99mm.
lots of quotes taken from the rise and the fall in this cool book about the late photographer naomi petersen, sst records, punk, hippie and the 20th century. check out this la weekly story on
Enter Naomi.
six issues of the rise and the fall made it in the book:
punk is dead: punk is everything!
in the zine section. big thanks to bryan ray turcotte. check out the layout below. aaron once got caught stealing rub down type at thrifty on 5th and gaffey (now rite aid) that we planned to use for the toilet times. he got detained and was told that they were gonna call the cops, i got away. they eventually let him go but aaron will tell you another story. aaron tells his side of the story in this same book (also in the zine section).
issue three made it in this book:
Skate And Destroy
as part of a collage of zines that were most likely reviewed in thrasher's zine thing at some point. this book is the shit...
Triskaidekaphobia? We here in San Pedro, CA embrace the number 13 for many reasons, but we won’t get into that. Issue 13 features an up to date interview with “outlaw artist,” Shepard Fairey on various topics that should quiet all the skeptics. Shepard also did the cover art for this issue. We talk with former pro skateboarder, rocker and record label owner, Todd Congelliere about his San Pedro based Recess Records, and what it takes to keep it going for over 20 years. Halbadal talks shit with up and coming L.A. rippers, Stab City on various hilarious subjects. Great skate-photo spread mostly of the local San Pedro, DIY, Channel Street skatepark and a couple other spots supplied by El Beardo. Former SST Records co-owner and writer, Joe Carducci gives us his take on political cycles and music undergrounds. A fair, but true restaurant review of Niko’s Pizzeria, brought to you by the Smut Peddlers own John Ransom. Our regular “Hanks Ghetto” page featuring Charles Bukowski poetry with Linda Bukowski’s permission of course. Another cool Scott Aicher comic, plus tons of reviews and much more. The reviews say that this is a San Pedro regional scene zine, but it is much more than that, trust me.
ISSUE THIRTEEN: $3.00 post paid
KNUCKLEHEAD T-SHIRT
This design is a knock-off of an old New Alliance Records Sticker and T-Shirt. It originally said "Knucklehead Defiance From The Dudes At New Alliance." New Alliance was a San Pedro based record label owned by Mike Watt, D. Boon and Martin Tamburovich in the early to mid '80s.
White Ink on the Front of a Royal Blue T-Shirt. (Image is 4" x 4.25")
KNUCKLEHEAD T-SHIRT: $10.00 post paid - Limited Sizes
RISE AND FALL STICKER
6" x 1.75" - Black and White Vinyl Sticker
Prices are Post Paid.
PREMIER ISSUE - April 2004
TOYS THAT KILL . 400 BLOWS . KILLER DREAMER . The Story Of The Channel Street Project . Taco Truck Reviews . Pat Wilder 1984 News Pilot Article . D. Boon In The Present Tense . Scott Aicher Comic . Martin Tamburovich Memorial . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE ONE: $10.00 post paid - Limited Amount Left
ISSUE TWO / August - November 2004
THE LORDS OF DOGTOWN (Movie Preview and Interview with the Associate Producer) . JESSE "LUSCIOUS" TOWNLEY (For Council) . THE LEECHES . MIKE BRINSON PART I . JAPANTHER . FOXY AUTOPSY . Toys That Kill Go To Japan . Pedrocentric . Scott Aicher Comic . George W. Bush Jr. Resume . Channel Street Update . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE TWO: $3.00 post paid.
ISSUE THREE / January - April 2005
MIKE WATT . THE RED ONIONS . ROLLING BLACKOUTS . BIG BOB of AGRESSION . VADGE MOORE of DWARVES . ETHAN WHITE . MIKE BRINSON PART II . El Beardo's Corner . Scott Aicher Comic . Jacob Gaxiola Comic . The Vincent Thomas Bridge (History Lesson) . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE THREE: $3.00 post paid.
ISSUE FOUR / May - August 2005
MIKE WATT Interviews LINDA BUKOWSKI about CHARLES BUKOWSKI . MANIC HISPANIC . LIPSTICK PICKUPS . EXTRA MIKE WATT SPIELS . LEFT ALONE . MISFITS . RIP 673: DEATH OF A PUNK HOUSE . Pedro Heads: Craig Flipy . The Lighthouse (History Lesson) . We Jam Econo Movie Premiere . Ask Mike Brinson . Scott Aicher, Aaron White & Victor Gastelum Comics . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE FOUR: $10.00 post paid - Limited Amount Left
ISSUE FIVE - September - December 2005
RAYMOND PETTIBON . THE SOVIETTES . FLESHIES . SACCHARINE TRUST PART I . NO FRAUD . Channel Street Project Update . Wicked Wahine Skateboard Events For Girls . Pedro Heads: Adam Gaxiola . Fort MacArthur (History Lesson) . Rehashin' With Mike Brinson . Bukowski Stencil Pattern . Scott Aicher Comic . Charles Bukowski Poems . History Of San Pedro Punk Exhibit At Angels Gate Cultural Center . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE FIVE: $10.00 post paid - Limited Amount Left
ISSUE SIX / January - April 2006
THE EVENS . SACCHARINE TRUST PART II . THE FACTION . THE KNOCKOUT PILLS . STEVO JENSEN (Vandals) & RANDY "BISCUIT" TURNER (Big Boys) MEMORIALS . Wicked Wahine Bowl & Street Contest . Pedro Heads: Steve Albano . Activist Chris Venn . Latest Dirt On The Channel Street Project . Scott Aicher Comic . History On Harbor Blvd. (History Lesson) . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE SIX: $3.00 post paid
ISSUE SEVEN / May - August 2006
AN EARLY HISTORY OF SAN PEDRO PUNK . PEDRO ART (ISSUE) DAMAGE FEATURING: SCOTT AICHER . JOHN BAGGE . TODD CONGELLIERE . CRAIG IBARRA . ANDY JENKINS . JED MARDESICH . ELVIS SEGARICH . AARON WHITE and TODD WILLIAMS . DESCENDENTS . Terminal Island (History Lesson) . Channel Street Slashfest '06 . Nam's Red Door. plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE SEVEN: $3.00 post paid
ISSUE EIGHT / September - December 2006
Ian MacKaye holding issue eight at Sunken City Skates in San Pedro on October 23, 2008. Photo by Vince Giobbe.
FER YOUZ: (PHOTOGRAPHER) BRIAN TUCKER INTERVIEW . MONEY MARK . THE CHUCK DUKOWSKI SEXTET . YEAR FUTURE . THE BRONX . Channel Street Skatepark 2002 - 2006 . Pedro Heads: Ray Oriel . Jacob Gaxiola Art Profile . San Pedro Brewing Company . Korean Bell (History Lesson) . The Underground Railroad To Candyland . The Alphabettes . Recess Records 100th Release Celebration . Poems by Charles Bukowski . Scott Aicher Comic . Steve Chavez Memorial . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE EIGHT: $3.00 post paid
ISSUE NINE / January - April 2007
KEITH MORRIS (Circle Jerks) . SHAWN KERRI . BULLET TREATMENT . SHAKEY BONES . El Beardo's State Of The Skate . Chet Zar Art Profile . Royal Palms (History Lesson) . Pronto's Restaurants . Epic Debauchery . The Grimes . Sleepover . Shanty Cheryl Live Photos . Poems by Charles Bukowski . Scott Aicher Comic . Gabby Mantini (The Alphabettes) and Mike Webber (Nip Drivers) Memorials . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE NINE: $3.00 post paid
ISSUE TEN / May 2007
GEORGE HURLEY (The Reactionaries, Minutemen, fIREHOSE) . QUI (David Yow) . THE UNDERGROUND RAILROAD TO CANDYLAND . MATT & KIM . DRINKERS PURGATORY . El Beardo's Skate Chronicles . Tom Berg Art Profile . The Bay Of Smokes (History Lesson) . SS Fun . Shoplifters . Victor Sedillo Photo Spread . Eating With Tito . Shanty Cheryl Live Photos . Poems by Charles Bukowski . Scott Aicher Comic . plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE TEN: $3.00 post paid
ISSUE ELEVEN / December 2007
THE LOCUST . DIOS MALOS . THEE MAKEOUT PARTY . THE SPITS . Ian Vanek (Japanther) Graffiti Spread . Channel Street Skatepark Update . The Bible Children . No Ma'am . Destroy L.A. . History Lessens? . Eating With Tito . Poems by Charles Bukowski . Scott Aicher Comic. plus reviews and much more.
ISSUE ELEVEN: $3.00 post paid
ISSUE TWELVE / January 2009
TRICLOPS! . IAN MACKAYE VISITS SAN PEDRO . BRIAN BRANNON (JFA) . On The Channel Street Park . Shanty Cheryl Art Profile . Pedro Heads: Frank Lipanovich . Give Some Credit To The... . Absorbing Jr. . Solamusica . Black Sparrow Press . Sonadora . San Pedro Diner . Poems by Charles Bukowski . Scott Aicher Comic . plus reviews and much more.
Interviews with King Khan, The Spits, Pierced Arrows, The Dead Moon Story, Skip Jensen, Ratas del Vaticano, Chuck Violence, B-Lines, Rupert Bottenberg, CM Ruiz, The Speaking Tongues, plus an article on Stef Petticoat and a tribute to the late Cramps frontman Lux Interior. Also: Gary Pig Gold, Kirsten Easthope, an exclusive introduction by Bobby Beaton, reviews, more!
Its great to see you have so many great projects going on! I hope the Thursday night Question/Answer event goes well in Pedro. Watt sent along the info about it in an e mail the other night...with some links attached...so I hitched a ride over to this link...glad to be here and see what's happenin'! All best, Ginger Killian Eades
