ok, here we go again...feel welcome to copy and post this into a bulletin.
Here we go again....more from the republican side trying to spin nothing into something, and when that fails, get dirty....I guess thats what some people do when they cant argue with better ideas....so here we go to correct the latest propaganda floating around myspace.
You may have seen this little missive before....but not with my specially added features! Enjoy!
2008 PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE COMPARISON TALKING POINTS ISSUE
Favors new drilling offshore US
Actually if you check around a little instead of relying on limbuagh and company to do it for you , you may find that Obama actually supports limited offshore drilling. McCains plan isnt really that much different, they drill a little more, and then the oil addicts can have another couple of years of cheap gas until this problem arises a third time...remember the seventies? How about a little money for research on alternative fuels? Wouldnt it be nice to get that monkey off our backs? In the meantime, try carpooling, riding a bike or the bus...its called "conservation".....kinda like "conservative" republican....ironic huh?
Will appoint judges who interpret the law not make it
Since Judges CANT MAKE LAWS this is kinda asanine. Read it as code for Judges who wont let us legislate our prejudices and bigotry. There is an element in this country who wont rest until they turn their particular brand of theologic morality into the law of the land, and would punish judges who take the time to point out that our country is not founded on any one religion, and in fact spells this out in the constitution.
Served in the US Armed Forces
Hmmmm...I dont remember that there was any requirement for that.....but then so many of those liberal presidents didnt serve...like Jefferson, Adams, Lincoln, Roosevelt( Franklin D.).....and kinda like those conservative ones like Nixon and Reagan.....and I harldy call flying around the skies of texas 2 weekends a year for 2 years "Military service"...sorry dubya.
Amount of time served in the US Senate
So.....22 years....and finally gonna push for change...what took so long??
Will institute a socialized national health care plan
OH god!! Not socialized medicine! Not that! How horrible! Imagine the idea of sick people actually being able to go to the doctor! Diseases caught earlier when they are easier and cheaper to cure! What would Jesus say to this idea? Think he would knock it?
Supports abortion throughout the pregnancy
no, John only supports it for a little while...but he still supports it. And in the cases where it will save the mothers life, he is for it all as well....are do we assign degrees to child murder now?
Would pull troops out of Iraq immediately
of course...any smart person would take those troops and then send them to the REAL fight in afghanistan...you know, where the guys who planned 9-11 were...now they are in pakistan of course but if you watch the news you might learn this. You might even learn that the drawdown in iraq that was just announced is merely a reshuffeling of troops...instead of replacing guys coming home from iraq the new units will go instead to afghanistan. If you read a little farther you will even realize that democrats are for this one! Remember any protests against the war in afghanistan? Know why you dont?They were all about iraq because people like me recognized from the beginning that it was a tragic misallocation of forces...but what do I know?
Supports gun ownership rights
both favor limited controls on handguns, and both support the ban on assault weapons. its all in the voting record folks.....
Supports homosexual marriage
the housing market is collapsing, banks are failing, energy and food prices are climbing....and you are worried about two gay guys getting a marriage license....why again? Because it will destroy the sanctity of marriage? Lets see...who has had a divorce....Obama? No.......hmmmmm was it McCain? And how many did Giullani have? 2 or 3? How about that bastion of good republicanism Rush Limbaugh? 2? 3?
Oh thats right GOD doesnt like it....and by god of course you mean your god right? Yeah, I forgot you long to live in a theocracy not a DEMocracy. Sorry. I keep forgetting we have our own little Taliban here.
Proposed programs will mean a huge tax increase
Well gosh. How dare Obama insist that we actually pay for our goodies ourselves!! How dare he suggest we actually PAY for the wars we wage!?? Lets just keep adding it to our massive defecit, most of which is a debt load owned largely by CHINA. You know that rising world power who has tons of money, tons of people and who are hungry for their share of the worlds oil and other resources? Nahhh.....lets just keep ignoring them......we can let our kids and their kids worry about it.
Voted against making English the official language
God...you people take nationalism to a whole new level. Ok, say we do it...what does that mean? All government documents can only be printed in English? They already are!! This doesnt mean that the car dealers and grocery stores will stop doing spanish ads.....and how far do you want to take it? After all, lots of our everyday words arent english.....What will we call a TACO bell? Can I no longer say Excuse me? Our language is filled with Spanish, German, French......oh I forgot...you guys dont know that....Maybe if you read more?
Voted to give Social Security benefits to illegals
I am with McCain on this one....but I dont think Obama voted to give them social security benefits.....gotta look at this one a bit closer. I advise you to do the same.
CAPITAL GAINS TAX
0% on home sales up to $500,000 per home (couples). McCain does not propose any change in existing home sales income tax.
28% on profit from ALL home sales. (How does this affect you? If you sell your home and make a profit, you will pay 28% of your gain on taxes. If you are heading toward retirement and would like to down-size your home or move into a retirement community, 28% of the money you make from your home will go to taxes. This proposal will adversely affect the elderly who are counting on the income from their homes as part of their retirement income.
This is actually a blatant bald faced lie. Obama is proposing a maximum of 20%, 5% more than the current rate of 15%...and this only on houses over 500,000 dollars. Not all by any means...in fact...the big 0% at the beginning? Notice it is followed by McCain wanting " no change" well.....since its not 0% but rather 15%. then where did the 0 come from??? Just thrown in there to make you think that 0% is what you will get with McCain....so is that a lie or a distortion??? who here lives in a house worth over a half million dollars? anyone?....anyone?,,,,,anyone??
15% (no change)
39.6% - (How will this affect you? If you have any money invested in stock market, IRA, mutual funds, college funds, life insurance, retirement accounts, or anything that pays or reinvests dividends, you will now be paying nearly 40% of the money earned on taxes if Obama becomes president. The experts predict that 'Higher tax rates on dividends and capital gains would crash the stock market, yet do absolutely nothing to cut the deficit.
alas...more bullshit. Obama never said any such number. His highest number here would be 28% on and that only on incomes over $250,000 dollars a year. This is to prevent people from being able to work 5 years, invest the money and live off of capital gains TAX FREE, enjoying the benefits of our military, coast gaurd, Nasa, etc etc for FREE forever.....and i love that last line....IT WILL DO NOTHING TO CUT THE DEFICIT!! Ok...well how will CUTTING taxes lower it?
Single making 30K - tax $4,500
Single making 50K - tax $12,500
Single making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 60K- tax $9,000
Married making 75K - tax $18,750
Married making 125K - tax $31,250
OBAMA (reversion to pre-Bush tax cuts)
Single making 30K - tax $8,400
Single making 50K - tax $14,000
Single making 75K - tax $23,250
Married making 60K - tax $16,800
Married making 75K - tax $21,000
Married making 125K - tax $38,750
Under Obama, your taxes could almost double!
Actually this is misleading. Both candidates favore EXTENDING the bush tax cuts, however Obama wants to cut it off at the 250,000 dollar a year level. and grand total increase? twelve dollars. In fact in all lesser income brackets the proposed credits in the Obama plan actually result in LOWER taxes than the McCain plan!! For example....if you make 38 to 66 thousand a year McCains plan would lower your tax bill by 319.00 dollars....Obama would lower it by ONE THOUSAND FORTY TWO dollars....this can be seen at the website of the TAX POLICY CENTER, a non partisan orginazation that "crunched" the numbers for you.....keep trying guys...you will be right on one of these yet!
- 0% (No change, Bush repealed this tax)
Restore the inheritance tax
Many families have lost businesses, farms, ranches, and homes that have been in their families for generations because they could not afford the inheritance tax. Those willing their assets to loved ones will only lose them to these taxes.
Sigh...more blatant lies. BUSH DID NOT REPEAL THIS TAX! And it only applies to inheritances of estates valued at over 2 MILLION dollars. This tax tops out at 45% on the highest inheritances and is already scheduled to apply only to estates over 3.5 MILLION in 2009, repeal in 2010, then reinstatement in 2011 at a rate of 55% on any estate over 1 MILLION. Thats it. Nothing else. McCain wants the exclusion raised to 5 million, and a lowering of the tax to 15%, while Obama favors keeping it at next years 3.5 and at the current 45%
boo hoo...poor little rich people. Maybe you should look into how this tax began...and why. It goes back to the rich living tax free on inherited wealth yet enjoying all the protections that the rest of us will pay for.
NEW TAXES PROPOSED BY OBAMA
New government taxes proposed on homes that are more than 2400 square feet. New gasoline taxes (as if gas weren't high enough already) New taxes on natural resources consumption (heating gas, water, electricity) New taxes on retirement accounts, and last but not least....New taxes to pay for socialized medicine so we can receive the same level of medical care as other third-world countries!!!
The money for all of this is going to come from the money paid by those 250,000 dollar a year income earners when the Bush Tax cuts that were and are TEMPORARY are allowed to expire. Allowing a temporary tax rebate to end is hardly "raising taxes". As for the gasoline tax...I got an idea!! Write to Exxon Mobile and ask them to lower gas prices...after all they posted the largest quarterly profits of any company anytime in the history of the world. Maybe they could pay their CEOs a few million dollars less and give us a little relief at the pumps. OR maybe we go with a higher gas tax and use the extra money to pay for research into cheaper/renewable fuels! naaaaa...gimme MINE NOW. Screw my kids and the world I leave to them! I want mine now!!!!!
its all right here.http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/taxes.asp
now for the best one...the bible quote.
And men from among
man...this one is just hanging there, ripe and ready for the smashing. I guess we are supposed to interpret this as a warning from god about Obama.....hmmm I guess God was just too busy to warn us about Hitler or Stalin ...but wait...I dont see a name.....How do we know this isnt about Bush or Rove or Rush or one of those guys....after all, they started a war...I dont remember seeing anything in the bible about it being GODLY to start wars! Thats what Satan does! Godly peo-ple OPPOSE wars....LIKE OBAMA,,,GASP!!!! In fact I think Jesus said something about mercy , compassion , love, caring for the sick (theres that damn socialized medicine again!) and something about forgiving those who harm you.....something about turning a cheek and abstaining from violence....OH MAN....JESUS WAS A LIBERAL! In fact...how do I know that the person who wrote this thing to begin with isnt the one luring me with deviant doctrine...and only threw this in to throw me off the track!!
idiots. if you are gonna try to scare people put on a halloween mask.
so there you have it ...the republican recipe for winning elections. Who needs ideas when you have lies, innuendo, spin, non-contextual quotes and distorted facts??