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Josef K
Post punk / Pop

"Crazy to Exist"

Edinburgh, Scotland
United Kingdom

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Member Since4/13/2007
Band Websitejosefk.net
Band MembersPaul Haig - guitar, vocals, songwriting
Malcolm Ross - guitar, violin
David Weddell - bass
Ronnie Torrance - drums
InfluencesInfluenced by:
The Velvet Underground, Talking Heads, Television, Pere Ubu, Roxy Music, The Modern Lovers, David Bowie.

Influenced:
Franz Ferdinand, Interpol, the Killers, and pretty much every post-punk band since.
Sounds LikeYoung Scotland.
Record LabelPostcard
Type of LabelIndie







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   About Josef K
For two brief years at the dawn of the 1980s Josef K gave the Postcard label its sharpest cutting edge.

Although outlived - and outsold - by labelmates Orange Juice and Aztec Camera, Josef K's flame burned brightest, while their influence has touched bands as diverse as Propaganda and the Wedding Present. Yet just as interesting are the subsequent solo careers of all four members, which include stints with Orange Juice, Aztec Camera and 4AD outfit the Happy Family. Not to mention the undervalued body of solo work produced by enigmatic frontman Paul Haig.

TV ART

Inspired by the heady punk summer of 1977, and later Pere Ubu and the New York art-punk sounds of the Velvet Underground and Television, Josef K came together in Edinburgh in mid-1978 as TV Art. Initially a three-piece, guitarists Paul Haig and Malcolm Ross and drummer Ron Torrance were briefly joined by bassist Gary McCormack, later to find fame of another kind with the Exploited.

After David Weddell took over on bass early in 1979 the group began gigging locally, joining a thriving Edinburgh scene which also included the Associates, the Visitors, TV21, Fire Engines, the Scars and Another Pretty Face.

At this point, Haig and Ross shared lead vocals, both apparently being strongly reminiscent of Lou Reed. It therefore came as no great surprise that their covers included the Velvet's Sweet Jane and I'm Waiting for the Man, as well as Be My Wife (Bowie), Psycho Killer (Talking Heads) and Marquee Moon (Television).

Summer 1979 saw TV Art change their name to Josef K, a reflection of Haig's then-current fascination with Czech writer Franz Kafka. Like another influence, avant punks Subway Sect, the group took to sporting sharp monochrome suits - from Oxfam. Josef K also recorded their first eight-song studio demo tape with the intention of landing a deal with a credible label such as Radar or Rough Trade, though these embryonic songs failed to elicit much interest.

Of this formative period, Malcolm Ross would later comment:

"Josef K was like a gang. We would all hang out together. We didn't like talking to promoters and such. It was snobbishness to an extent. We just thought that they weren't in the gang or on the same wavelength. I suppose we were quite puritanical. We didn't like sexism or laddishness... It was modernist. I was quite interested in the original mod movement, and that was one of the influences in wearing suits. Again, it was a reaction to the whole dirty, long-haired thing that punk reacted to, but punk wasn't too far off it either. Punks were just as dirty. I didn't like that - I wanted some kind of dignity. We were forward looking.

None of us had ever played in groups prior to punk so it gave us clean slate. Whereas you could tell the bands who had, because they would chuck in rock guitar cliches here, there and everywhere. We never did. Paul and I were always striving to be, if not experimental, at least not cliched."

ABSOLUTE POSTCARD

Meanwhile, a chance encounter with Steven Daly, drummer with Glasgow band Orange Juice, lead to a loose alliance between the two bands, who began playing out together, alternating headline status on one another's home turf. After Daly set up his own label, Absolute, Chance Meeting by Josef K became its first (and last) release. Both sides were lifted straight from the earlier demo, and although initial sales were modest on release in November 1979, BBC radio airplay from John Peel afforded the band a degree of national exposure.

Edwyn Collins and Alan Horne, singer and manager respectively of Orange Juice, subsequently set up Postcard Records, to which Josef K duly signed. Arty and camp, Postcard stood in stark contrast to the colourless majority of independent labels of the 'cold wave' era. The second Josef K single, Radio Drill Time, was recorded in April 1980 during a shared session with Orange Juice, who cut Blue Boy. The flipside, Crazy To Exist, is credited as 'live', but was in truth recorded in a cottage in Fife. As well as doubling up on studio time, both records also appeared in the same sleeve, a double-sided wraparound affair, many of which were arduously hand-coloured.

Radio Drill Time found favour with the rock weeklies, who now ventured north to check out 'the Sound Of Young Scotland', a phrase appropriated by Horne from Motown. In consequence Josef K played their London debut in October, and one month later released It's Kinda Funny. Easily their most relaxed and reflective single, Funny earned them the kind of hyperbolic reviews that in time came to weigh increasingly heavily on the group. Interestingly, the song would also prove the most durable oldie in Haig's solo live set.

DEBUT ALBUM

November 1980 also saw the band record their debut album, Sorry For Laughing, a record which (until its appearance on CD in 1990) quickly joined the pantheon of Great Lost Albums. Twelve tracks were cut, test pressings made, and a deluxe silver sleeve proofed - yet at the eleventh hour the release was cancelled. Over the years an astonishing stock of rumour has attached to the record, while even at the time no little hype surrounded its cancellation. Horne claimed that the twelve-song set was too well-produced (!), while rumours abounded of several thousand finished copies being destroyed.

Later, the band would claim that the mix was unsatisfactory (as in too bass-heavy and clean), and that it failed to represent their blistering live sound. Certainly, most of the songs were already old, and the album gave little indication of what th group proved capable of delivering just nine months later with the Only Fun In Town. Yet while many subsequently judged Sorry

For Laughing a more listener-friendly set than its successor, it's an inferior piece of art. And collectors are warned against paying hundreds of pounds for test pressings, it being rumoured that rather more than the usual handful were pressed, with the express object of producing saleable rarities.

Thus Sorry For Laughing would gather dust in a vault for a decade. Ever uncompromising, Josef K were already displaying a marked disdain for careerist notions, even going so far as to boast of making only one or two albums before splitting in a blaze of glory.

THE CREPUSCULE CONNECTION

In December 1980 Orange Juice and Josef K travelled to Brussels at the invitation of Les Disques du Crepuscule for a New Year's Eve concert at Plan K. The date also featured Brussels p-funk enigma Marine, a jazz band and silent films. Manager Allan Campbell recalls:

"The concert was invaded by a group of inebriated punks, one of whom threw a plate of food in Edwyn Collins' face when he was onstage. The OJ singer retaliated with a kick. By the time Josef K appeared feelings in the crowd were running high. A fight broke out in front of the stage and the group had to stop playing while the promoters attempted to sort things out."

Indeed, at a distance of twenty years, it is easy to overlook the fact that Josef K considered themselves a live rather than a studio band. Allan Campbell again:

"Since their early live shows with the likes of Echo and the Bunnymen, the Cure, Magazine and the Clash (where they were heckled for being 'mods'), they were now becoming formidable live performers. In concert was the place to truly experience Ross and Haig's sensational guitar work.

Ross' lead playing in particular was inspiring. Fiery, committed and ringing, it was a key element in the group's sound. Onstage was where Josef K made most sense.

It was becoming increasingly apparent that Josef K weren't the serious young men that they first appeared to be. A penchant for psychedelic shirts, the occasional kaftan and liquid light projection was their tongue-in-cheek way of repudiating their monochromatic image. Because Haig refused to talk to the audiences (part of their anti-showbusiness stance; neither would they play encores or sign autographs) he would tape song introductions and play them over the PA.

Later, he and Ross would expand this to include their own versions of some old Dean Martin and Jerry Lewis routines - "Did you take a bath this morning?" / "Why? Is there one missing?."

During the first visit to Brussels Josef K also re-recorded the track Sorry For Laughing for single release. When Crepuscule released the record in April 1981 it was rightly hailed as the group's strongest offering to date, and established the definitive Josef K style of circular rhythms paired with incisive guitar angles. Indeed, the song became so highly regarded that German sophisticates Propaganda later covered it (albeit blandly) on their acclaimed ZTT album A Secret Wish.

CHANCE MEETING

Horne, upset that the groups' best single yet was to appear on another label, pressed Josef K into re-recording Chance Meeting for Postcard, thus triggering a frantic six-month burst of activity. In March, several songs from the scrapped debut album were donated to the BBC as a fake John Peel radio session, while in April the band crossed to Brussels again to play several more shows, and to record their debut album a second time. Chance Meeting, released in June, was far superior to the Absolute version eighteen months earlier and, complete with added brass, saw Josef K beginning to sound like a bona fide pop band.

This overt commercial edge, together with a distinct funkiness, was further developed that same month by their one proper Peel session. Bearing in mind that these four songs were to prove Josef K's last recordings together, their excellence makes the demise of the group all the more heartbreaking. Heaven Sent and Missionary were the new songs, two fine slices of looping punk- funk, the latter heavily influenced by Life in Reverse, a single by Brussels band Marine released on Crepuscule in April. However the biggest surprise came with a charming Alice Cooper cover - Applebush - sung by Ross's wife, Susan Buckley.

THE ONLY FUN IN TOWN - PARADISE BUNGLED

Although expectations for the 'debut' album were now running high, it met with mixed reaction upon release in July. Although praised in Melody Maker, The Only Fun in Town was roundly slated by Sounds, while Paul Morley, writing in the NME, bemoaned:

"...an artificial paradise totally bungled. Fun is not much at all chasing itself in dizzying circles. Somewhere between the chunky echo beat and the wound down punk bleat, through a large door and down a shady lane, in the hands of a world famous producer, lies smart and shirty and splenetic. The Josef K Sound that would present their songs with class.

The precarious balance between reality and reverie is lost, lost, lost, the reduced production degenerates rather than glorifies the escapist desires and poetic fancy. Fun is subdued not sublime: an errant substitute for what could have been... Singer Paul Haig is brilliant. He acts rich - as the group should do, as the production should be - but he alone cannot stop Fun being scruffy. I am appalled. Will there be a third time? Can they forget their past? Is what's lost all? Josef K have cheapened themselves and cheated the world: not bad for a first LP."

Barely half an hour long, comprising many familiar songs from singles, and blessed with a hyper-bright production that belied the six day schedule in a Belgian eight-track studio, TOFIT arrived as a shock indeed to anyone expecting Josef K to turn in the brand of sophisticated pop subterfuge that, say, the Associates would produce a year later with Sulk.

Haig now reflects that:

"I think we committed commercial suicide. When we were mixing the album, we wanted it to sound like a live concert, because we were so into playing live. I purposely mixed down my own vocals. God knows why. I regret that."

Nonetheless TOFIT remains a dazzling record, featuring ten left- handed pop nuggets of undeniable genius, and while very much the uncompromising 'punk' album both band and Horne had long promised, it effortlessly topped the alternative charts for several weeks. The album also stands as the only album that the original Postcard label ever got around to releasing.

CRAZY TO EXIST?

By way of promotion Josef K set out on a lengthy UK tour during July and August, with boy wonders Aztec Camera in support. The last London show, at the Venue, is preserved on the 'Crazy to Exist' CD. However, the final Scottish date at Glasgow Maestro's would prove their last. The exact reasons behind the split - principally Haig's decision - remain obscure, although it would appear that a combination of too-great expectations, small incomes, Haig's dislike of touring and unspecified disagreements over future direction were primarily to blame. Rather fancifully, Alan Horne saw fit to blame the NME. Whatever the cause, one of the Great White Hopes of the decade had self-destructed after just one album, thus fulfilling their own brash prophecy.

Interviewed by Johnny Waller in Sounds early the following year, Haig confessed:

"I was pretty depressed for a week because it was the end of an era, but after that I was really happy that we'd split, because I could get on with everything I wanted to do. I don't listen to any of those records now. It's all gone. Nothing from that period interests me, except maybe Sorry for Laughing. We didn't really get on all that well towards the end. We didn't have anything in common, so there were no jokes, no happy feeling. It was just down to doing a job. Josef K weren't that famous anyway. We've split up, so what? Everybody changes."

More tellingly, the singer revealed:

"I've lost alot of the ideals I had in Josef K. About not wanting to be commercially successful, suffering for your art and all that. Not that I wasn't sincere about it at the time... But I got sick of it. I want to be signed to a major and make a great record that will get radio airplay and be a big hit, then make my own money from that. I don't mind being manipulated to a certain extent in order to get what I want, but in time I want to control everything."

It's an ideal which Haig, perhaps to his detriment, has never strayed. But before going on to examine the subsequent careers of all four members, it is worth jumping forward in time and covering the many posthumous Josef K releases.

THE RECORDED LEGACY

First came Crepuscule's 'Farewell Single' in 1982, combining Missionary (from the Peel session) with two instrumental takes on the Angle (from TOFIT). Former manager Allan Campbell (who also oversaw Haig's solo career until 1984) then took charge of the back catalogue via his Supreme International Editions label, issuing an ep featuring Heaven Sent (Peel again) as the lead track, and a compilation album, Young and Stupid. The track selection of the latter - undertaken by the band themselves - left a little to be desired, presenting neither an accurate overview of their career, or a complete collection of wallet- withering single sides which had rapidly become pricey New Wave rarities. Fortunately, in 1990 LTM collected every Josef K song ever committed to vinyl (together with demo tracks, the Peel session and the shelved album) onto two remastered compact discs.

In Japan, the LTM CD releases were split into three, with the addition of a 'Rare Live' set identical to the first 12 tracks on the live album eventually released worldwide by LTM in 2000. German label Marina released a fine 'greatest hits' set titled Endless Soul on CD in 1998 (with great sleevenotes by Allan Campbell), while the following year Creation offshoot RevOla reissued the LTM CD coupling of Sorry For Laughing and The Only Fun In Town.

In the years immediately following their breakup Josef K would spawn a legion of imitators, a perhaps questionable legacy given that their influence was chiefly mirrored in the shambling C86-stable. The direct covers and tributes number just three: Sorry For Laughing (Propaganda), It's Kinda Funny (the Confettis), and a heartfelt adieu from the June Brides, titled Josef's Dead.

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Aug 7 2008 1:27 AM

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bye
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Jul 7 2008 8:24 AM



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Jun 10 2008 7:33 PM

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Jun 2 2008 2:21 PM

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Jun 1 2008 4:25 PM

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May 3 2008 6:01 AM

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Apr 16 2008 11:41 AM

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Dec 23 2007 6:06 AM

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Dec 22 2007 8:59 PM

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Nov 30 2007 1:15 PM

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Aug 8 2007 5:55 PM



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