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We wholeheartedly share Patti Smith's opinion that the MC5 "were a great band and they should be remembered. And they should be remembered together. This film is a very good opportunity to give them recognition."

With that in mind, we enthusiastically support Future/Now Films and vigorously encourage the expeditious release of the highly acclaimed MC5 - A True Testimonial documentary as a tribute to the the collective efforts of the MC5 as a whole thing. KOTJMF!!!

Correspondence, well-earned and much-deserved kudos will be forwarded but this site is not maintained by David Thomas, Laurel Legler, Future/Now Films or Zenta LLC.




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Wayne Kramer: "The filmmakers have done a fabulous job of telling the story of the MC5. Of course, the passing of Fred Smith and Rob Tyner make the film kind of one-sided, in as much as they weren't there to reflect on their sides of the story. It's truly a shame, because they were the best storytellers in the band."

from The Kramer Report (waynekramer.com) - June 1, 2002

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Dennis Thompson: "Fred Smith was the soul of the MC5. He was the soul. Rob was the thinker, he was the poet, he was the icing on the cake... I really think, deep down in my soul, Fred and Rob were the same, I mean... Fred was creative musically, Rob could put into words what Fred felt in his heart. There's the bond. I mean Rob could write the tunes, Rob could write two songs a night if he wanted him to when he was prime time... Creativity doesn't come from walking around being a big mouth. It comes from thought, it's always quiet..."

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Dennis Thompson: "Fred was the heart and soul. Rob had to put it into words. so that's probably why they bonded... Fred and Rob would get together and say "well, here's some ideas" and then Rob would explain it in poetry, turn it into words."

"Fred didn't even know about chemistry, he already had it. He was a man of the future. way before his time, the kid had it up here; he had it in his heart and he had the music in his heart. The MC5 was really built around Fred Smith, not Wayne Kramer, not Dennis Thompson, not Rob Tyner or Mike Davis... that band was my soul, and when I lost that band, part of my soul went with it."

"The only one who crashed and burned the MC5 was the MC5. there was no single person that could have saved us, no way. It was up to us, and it was a difficult decision, and it wasn't made at the same time... If it wasn't for my friends that are making this movie, no one would know."

"No one would ever know about this greatest story that was never fucking told, no one would know and they want to know. So there's chance and there's hope, there's all the good things for everybody out there. But right now I'm looking in your eyes and I'm seeing a sparkle and the sparkle tells me, "yeah its cool". I'm enjoying it and its appreciated by me, greatly appreciated."

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Wayne Kramer: "The two main guys in the band, for me, Fred Smith and Rob Tyner. This is, you know, this was a great tragedy of my life that I'll carry with me forever, that I never was able to hook back up with either one of them as an adult, in the modern age. I don't have any regrets, but I don't close the door on it either. It's just there, it's part of who I am now."

"That I never connected with the two of them and today they're not here, you know, and it could have just as easily been me that ain't here and one of them that's here, this is all just providence, you know, this is the will of God that I'm the one that's here telling these stories and they're not. It's certainly nothing that I made happen. You know, I've heard of people making amends in the graveyard before and we'll all be in the same band sooner or later again."

Q: If you could say something to either of them now, what would that be?

Wayne Kramer: "Well, you know, I'd ask them to forgive me for my unkindness to them, you know. For the things that I had done to them that hurt them. The things I tried to make them do that were uncomfortable to them or how I tried to change them from being who they were. You know, ask them to forgive me for my shallowness, you know, my ego and my lack of sensitivity to them."

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CALIFORNIA FEDERAL JUDGE RULES IN FAVOR OF FUTURE/NOW FILMS

"It's good to remember the 60's, but some say if you remember the 60's you weren't there. Perhaps to assist all of us in remembering the 60's, Defendants David Thomas and Laurel Legler made a film on the MC5, a 60's Detroit Rock and Roll band that made its mark on American history with loud rock and roll and radical perceptions positing an imperialistic and materialistic America. This lawsuit teaches that materialism remains with us, as Plaintiffs vigorously seek money from Defendants. Although the MC5 faded away largely due to drugs, the band lingers on in the memory of many, and would be known to many other but for pending legal feuds..."

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"The MC5 is historically significant and its music and story merit being heard today. The film had and still has the potential to spread the music and story of the MC5. Plaintiffs persisted in continuing to encourage Thomas and Legler to complete the film. Thomas and Legler took action in reliance on that encouragement. Further, no terms specific enough to form an enforceable contract were ever agreed upon between any plaintiff and any defendant, and no defendant made any actionable false representations to any plaintiff."

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(signed) The Honorable Andrew J Guilford, United States District Judge
Findings Of Fact And Conclusions Of Law, issued March 31, 2007

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Could this blockbuster ruling finally clear the remaining obstacles and enable the long-overdue release of the brilliant MC5 - A True Testimonial film?

Detroit Free Press: Vincent Cox, the attorney for David Thomas and Laurel Legler of Future/Now, said the decision lays the groundwork for the film's release, but licensing still must be negotiated. Kramer's representatives declined to comment.

Detroit News: "We're hopeful," said Thomas and Legler's attorney, Vincent Cox. "There are still some problems because the deal with the DVD distributor was damaged by the actions of Warner Chappell in refusing to issue the license. In order for there to be a release, that question has to be cleared up."

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E-mail message from Margaret Saadi, 4 September 2001
Exhibit 348 - USDC Case Number CV 05-8381 AG (CTx):

i write to let you know that i also received the zenta LLC film paperwork and at first pass, it reflects exactly what wayne, dennis and michael (as well as becky tyner) agreed to many years ago when this idea was in it's conception phase. now that the film has (miraculously and righteously!) entered its post-production phase, the film makers appear to be attending to all business points... i am happy to tell you that all parties involved with the MC5 on my end are completely in support of future/now films undertaking thus far. dave and laurel have shown themselves to be quite talented, and in the last five years i have developed a great trust in them as people and as devoted storytellers....

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VINCENT COX, FUTURE/NOW ATTORNEY: When did you first learn that Warner/Chappell would refuse to license a composition for use in a film if a songwriter objected?

WAYNE KRAMER: "I heard a story over there about sometimes a filmmaker wants to use a musician's song in his movie, but, for whatever reason, the musician doesn't want the song in the movie. It happens from time to time. The filmmaker, then, usually buys the songwriter a Cadillac or offers him a great deal of money. They never attack the songwriter."

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"It's a shame," says Patti Smith, who had two children with the guitarist [Fred "Sonic" Smith].

"I understand from my son [Jackson] that it's a wonderful movie, and I support it. It's being blocked by Wayne Kramer, and I think that's unfortunate. My son is one of the true guardians of his father's name, and he felt that the movie served his father well, and he was hoping that it would come out. These things are always a shame, when someone is trying to do something good and it gets tainted by greed."

Once More With Feeling by Greg Kot, Chicago Tribune - May 30, 2004

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“I said to Laurel and David all along, their journey has so paralleled that of the MC5,” says Tyner’s widow Becky. “Now we’re at the breakup of the MC5. The bully tactics, the pressure. It’s almost cosmic...”

Jackson Smith, the Detroit-based musician son of Fred and Patti Smith, is also disappointed that release of “A True Testimonial” is being held up. “It’s a travesty that it would be blocked,” Smith says. “It’s a great .. of the band, it’s a great .. of life, and it’s a great .. of things ... far and beyond the band...”

Famed Grande Ballroom poster artist Gary Grimshaw, who recently moved back to Detroit from San Francisco, is “disturbed” by Kramer’s opposition to the film. Grimshaw did the cover graphics for the “True Testimonial” film, as well as for Kramer’s film. “I had no idea when I did that for him that there was going to be any problem, that Wayne would set it up as the only authorized MC5 movie as opposed to ‘A True Testimonial.’ If I’d known, I don’t think I would have done the cover for him.”

MC5 In Turmoil Yet Again by Susan Whitall, Detroit News - March 31, 2004

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"Sometimes we don't see ourselves as we really are, sometimes we need an outsider to cut through the bullshit and portray the truth. Sometimes there is no truth, all you have is what's in the moment. Maybe the parties involved are too close to it. Because the end was painful. The end of the band was painful, and the end of the movie is painful because it shows the truth. And the truth is not grand or pretty or triumphant. The end is sad. The end is about drugs and desperation and falling apart.

But it is what happened. And there is a certain dignity in letting the truth be what it is and telling the past simply, without embellishment. While watching the movie, I thought to myself: no matter where any of you guys are now, you can look at yourself in the mirror every single day and say, I was in the MC5. I made history. I changed rock and roll. End of story. No matter what you wanted to have happened, no matter if the band crashed and burned before its time, no matter if you didnt achieve what you thought the band had the potential of achieving. You were still the fucking MC5 and YOU CHANGED THE WORLD. I realize that doesn't solve arguments or doesn't pay the bills, but I wish it could provide them with some kind of inner peace or tranquility or resolve or at least smug satisfaction."

The MC5: A True Testimonial by Caryn Rose, jukeboxgraduate.com

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Oct 14 2009 10:32 PM

Thanks for the add
MAJESTY

MAJESTY



Sep 23 2009 12:23 AM

Killer!
BlackTop Five

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Sep 18 2009 7:16 PM

Absolutely killer film. I watch my a copy I have very very often. This film must be released to the public and give the '5' their Due.

Go Go Go!

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RIP- Rob and Sonic
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Sep 17 2009 2:45 PM

Thanx for the add!!!!!!
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Jun 26 2009 1:17 AM

Kick out the jams motherfucker!
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May 14 2009 8:48 PM

Great to be baCK in touch with you all.. KOTJMF!!!!!!!
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May 1 2009 8:32 AM

Thanks for having me!

Love and peas,

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Apr 29 2009 8:40 PM

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Apr 3 2009 9:31 AM

best rock n roll band ever..legends!
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Apr 3 2009 9:23 AM

thank you for the add
cheers Klaus
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Apr 2 2009 10:07 PM

Thanks for the add looking forward to seeing the film finally getting released. MC5 story most be told Jam out the Jams!!!
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Mar 22 2009 7:32 PM

MC5 ARE THE BEST! ROCK WOULDN'T BE THE SAME WITH NO MC5! MC5 IS THE ROCK!
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Mar 19 2009 1:03 PM

Love is our religion !<br /><br />Greetz from Cologne, bastard state Germany<br />
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Mar 11 2009 4:01 AM

Looking forward to seeing your film.
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Mar 9 2009 6:14 PM

Hey, how 'bout a reissure of Rob Tyner's incredible solo swasong "Bloodbrothers" from 1990? MC5 fans DESERVE this album!
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Feb 1 2009 8:13 AM

...very welcome...post your peace comment...tell your friends about...thanks for support...peace and love...
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Feb 1 2009 7:31 AM

Thanks for the add... Gabba gabba hey! We are honored to tell you that you are the 4000th friend on our myspace site. Long live the spirit of MC5. Teddy
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Jan 20 2009 11:03 PM

Man I wish I could see the show. I heard news about it as it was being made, even have a postcard made for it, and then it all crashed. I sincerely hope it gains release in the future so we can all enjoy a movie made from the heart about a hell of an exciting band.
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Jan 8 2009 6:22 AM

Ron Asheton, R.I.P. WABX We always remmber you !
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Dec 30 2008 1:11 AM

Thanks for the add, MC5 is the one thing the music industry is missing.
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Dec 20 2008 1:31 PM

Thanx a lots for the add me, i cant stop luvin'MC5 !<br />
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Nov 29 2008 12:01 PM

Hi Dave and Laurel,
Thanks for the ADD.
Dennis T. told me about your film project a few yrs. back when we were recording together. You guys sent me some paper work on the film
etc. I haven't seen it yet but heard it turned out very well,
Congrats on your lawsuit WIN!
Jim :-)
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Nov 21 2008 1:18 AM

Here's to your eventual triumph, which posterity demands...
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Nov 10 2008 2:38 PM

THANX :-))
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